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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumborder"> <tr> <td class="forumtitle" width="22%"></th> <td class="forumtitle"></th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rovespieros</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 23, 2009 9:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Äåí ãíùñßæù íá óïõ áðáíôÞóù ãéá ôï "áããëéêü". Ïýôå ìáò áðáó÷ïëåß.</span> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: red">Ãíùñßæïõìå ôç äéáäñïìÞ êáé ôéò êáèáñÝò áðüøåéò ôïõ Ôïýìðáíç êáé áõôü åßíáé ôï êñéôÞñéü ìáò. ÁõôÜ ìáò áñêïýí ãéá ôïí Ôïýìðáíç.</span></span> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Ãíùñßæïõìå åðßóçò êáé ôá ôå÷íÜóìôá ôùí åðáããåëìáôéþí áíôéñáôóéóôþí êáé áõôü åßíáé ôï ÊÑÉÔÇÑÉÏ.</span> <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Áðü åêåß êáé ðÝñá äåí åìðëåêüìáóôå óå áóôõíïìéêÝò éóôïñßåò...</span> <br /> <br />ÔÝëïò ëÜèç ôå÷íéêÜ ãßíïíôáé ðïëëÜ êáé óå Ýíá öüñïõì. <br />Áò ìç ôá äáéìïíïðïéïýìå... <br /><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"></span><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Öéëýðïðôïò</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 23, 2009 9:31 am<span class="gen"> </span> : "Ñáäéïõñãßåò";...</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: black">Ìå áðáó÷ïëïýóå ç åîáöÜíéóç ôùí ðáñáðÜíù êåéìÝíùí áðü ôï ÐáôÜñé. Ðñïöáíþò ïöåéëüôáí ÊÁÉ óå ôå÷íéêïýò ëüãïõò. <br /> <br />Ôá åß÷á ðáñáèÝóåé äéüôé åß÷á õðïãñáììÞóåé êÜôé öñÜóåéò. <br /> <br />Åßíáé "ñáäéïõñãßåò ôïõ Ð.Ê." ôá ðáñáðÜíù êåßìåíá; ÏËÁ; Êáé ôï áããëéêü;</span></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rovespieros</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 23, 2009 9:24 am<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Öõëýðïðôå, äåí êáôáëáâáßíù ðïéá åßíáé ç áðïñßá óïõ êáé ôï ãéáôß áíáðáñÜãåéò ôéò "ñáäéïõñãéåò" ôïõ "Ð.Ê". <br />ïé áðüøåéò ôïõ Ôïýìðáíç åßíáé ãíùóôÝò êáé ïëïêÜèáñåò êáé õéïèåôïýíôáé ÐËÇÑÙÓ áðü ôï ÑÅÓÁËÔÏ. <br />Ôé áëÞèåéá ó'áðáó÷ïëåß; </span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Öéëýðïðôïò</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 23, 2009 8:02 am<span class="gen"> </span> : ÅîáöÜíéóç êåéìÝíïõ.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">ÅÑÃÁÔÉÊÇ ÄÑÁÓÇ-ÊÄÅ. <br />ÐÑÏËÅÔÁÑÉÏÉ ÏËÙÍ ÔÙÍ ×ÙÑÙÍ ÅÍÙÈÅÉÔÅ! <br />ÄÅËÔÉÏ ÊÏÌÌÏÕÉÓÔÉÊÇÓ ÄÉÅÈÍÉÓÔÉÊÇÓ ÅÍÙÓÇÓ. <br />×ñüíïò 10ïò ÍÏÅÌÂÑÇÓ 1991. ÁÑ. ÖÕËÏÕ 93. <br />************************************************************************** <br />ÅËËÇÍÅÓ ÊÁÉ ÎÅÍÏÉ ÅÑÃÁÔÅÓ ÅÍÙÌÅÍÏÉ. <br />*************************************************************************** <br />Ïé åñãÜôåò üðïõ ãçò, åßíáé åêìåôáëëåõüìåíïé êáé êáôáðéåóìÝíïé. <br />Ìá ðåñéóóüôåñï åêåßíïé ðïõ âñßóêïíôáé ìáêñéÜ áðü ôç ÷þñá ôïõò êáé ç åõèýíç äåí åßíáé äéêéÜ ôïõò . <br />Áêüìá êáé óôç ðåñßïäï ôçò êáðéôáëéóôéêÞò «Üíèçóçò» ïé Ýëëçíåò åñãÜôåò ãíþñéóáí óôï åîùôåñéêü ôç ìïßñá ôïõ …áëëïäáðïý. Äåí ìéëÜìå ãéá ôéò åîáéñÝóåéò åêåßíåò ðïõ Ýêáíáí äéêÝò ôïõò «ìðßæíåò», áëëÜ ãéá ôçí Ü÷ñùìç ìÜæá óôéò öÜìðñéêåò ôçò Ãåñìáíßáò êáé áëëïý. <br />*************************************************************************** <br /> <br />ÓÞìåñá ôá ðñÜãìáôá ãéá ôïõò îÝíïõò åñãÜôåò åßíáé ðéï äýóêïëá. <br />Âñßóêïíôáé óôç ÷þñá ìáò óå ðïëý äýóêïëåò óõíèÞêåò ãéá üëïõò, ðïëý ðåñéóóüôåñï ãéá ôïõò ßäéïõò ðïõ ïýôå «Üäåéá åñãáóßáò»Ý÷ïõí ïýôå êáôïéêßá, ïýôå êáëÜ ôç ãëþóóá ãíùñßæïõí .ÐÝñá áðü ôçí îåíéôéÜ ìáêñéÜ áðü ôéò ïéêïãÝíåéåò ôïõò. <br />Åêôüò áðü ôçí ñáôóéóôéêÞ ðñïðáãÜíäá êáé åðéèåôéêüôçôá áðü üðïõ êáé íá ðñïÝñ÷åôáé êáëëéåñãåßôáé Ýôóé êé´áëåéþò Ýíá êáèåóôþò çìéðáñáíïìßáò ãéá ôïõò îÝíïõò åñãÜôåò, Ýñ÷åôáé êáé ç êáôáäßùîÞ ôïõò áðü ôçí áóôõíïìßá. <br />Ðïõ ôïõò èõìßæåé ðüôå-ðüôå «ôï ðüóï ðáñÜíïìïé» åßíáé êáé ðïõ ü÷é ìüíï äåí Ý÷ïõí äéêáéþìáôá, áëëÜ ïýôå êáí ôç äõíáôüôçôá íá êáôáããåßëïõí ÏÓÏÕÓ «äéêïýò ìáò» ÅÑÃÏÄÏÔÅÓ ÔÏÕÓ ÊÁÔÁÊËÅÂÏÕÍ. <br />Êáé äåí ëÝìå ìüíï üôé ôïõò Ý÷ïõí êá äïõëåýïõí áíáóöÜëéóôïõò ðÜíù áðü 8 þñåò, ìå ðïëý ìéêñüôåñï ìåñïêÜìáôï , áëëÜ êáé ðïëëÝò öïñÝò ÄÅÍ ÔÏÕÓ ÐËÅÉÑÙÍÏÕÍ ÊÁÉ ÄÅÊÁÄÅÓ ÌÅÑÏÊÁÌÁÔÁ. <br />ÅÜí õðÞñ÷å ìéá åðéôñïðÞ «ÁËÕËËÅÃÃÕÇÓ» áðü ôá óõíäéêÜôá, üðïõ èá ìðïñïýóáí ïé áëëïäáðïß íá ðñïóöåýãïõí êáé íá âñßóêïõí õðïóôÞñéîç, èá äéáðßóôùíå ÷éëéÜäåò ôÝôïéåò ðåñéðôþóåéò åñãïëÜâùí êáé êáôáóêåõáóôþí êõñßùò ðïõ…äåí äýíáíôáé íá ðëçñþóïõí, áöïý ðñþôá öõóéêÜ êÜíïõí ôç äïõëåéÜ ôïõò êáé áöïý ãíùñßæïõí üôé ï Áëâáíüò ð÷ äéþêåôáé êáé äåí èá ðÜåé íá ôï êáôáããåßëåé óôçí áóôõíïìßá. <br />¶óå ðïõ êáé åêåß «êÜðïéïé» ìðïñåß íá ôïõò æçôÞóïõí ðåñéóóüôåñá( áð´üóá ôïõ ÷ñùóôÜåé ôï áöåíôéêü) ãéá ôçí … ðáñáìïíÞ ôïõ óôç ÷þñá. Êáé ðïõ íá ôá âñåé ìåôÜ… <br />ÊÜñöùìá óôçí áóôõíïìßá ìðïñåß íá ãßíåôáé áðü ôïõò ßäéïõò åêìåôáëëåõôÝò, üôáí óõíáíôÞóïõí êÜðïéá åðéìïíÞ ãéá íá äþóïõí ôá ÷ñÝç ôïõò. <br />¸ôóé Ý÷åé ç êáôÜóôáóç êáé äåí ôçí áíôéìåôùðßæïõìå áðü ôçí çèéêÞ ôçò ðëåõñÜ. <br />Ãéáôß äåí âñßóêåôáé åêåß ôï æÞôçìá, áëëÜ óôçí éêáíüôçôá ôçò ðñùôïðüñáò åñãáôéêÞò ôÜîçò íá óõãêåíôñþíåé ôéò äõíÜìåéò ôéò äõíÜìåéò ôçò ÅÍÁÍÔÉÁ ÓÔÏÕÓ ÐÑÁÃÌÁÔÉÊÏÕÓ Å×ÈÑÏÕÓ ÔÇÓ. <br />Ðïõ äåí åßíáé ïé «îÝíïé» åñãÜôåò , áëëÜ ïé íôüðéïé êåöáëáéïêñÜôåò êáé ïé ìç÷áíéóìïß, êõâåñíçôéêïß êáé ìç, ðïõ ôïõò õðïóôçñßæïõí. <br />Ç åñãáôéêÞ ôÜîç äåí èá âãåé ùöåëçìÝíç áðü ìéá ôå÷íéêÞ «áíôéðáëüôçôá» ìå ôïõò îÝíïõò åñãÜôåò, üðïõ ôïõò áðïìáêñýíåé áðü ôïõò êïéíïýò óôü÷ïõò ÐÏÕ ÐÑÅÐÅÉ ÍÁ ÄÙÈÏÕÍ óáí ôç ìüíç åëðßäá íá ìçí ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýíôáé óáí áðåñãïóðáóôéêüò ìç÷áíéóìüò ( üôáí íïéþèïõí åíôåëþò áðïêïììÝíïé áðü ôïõò ¸ëëçíåò óõíáäÝëöïõò ôïõò åßíáé êáé ðéï åõÜëùôïé óôéò ðéÝóåéò ôùí áöåíôéêþí) êáé íá ìçí ôïõò åêìåôáëëåýïíôáé áóýäïôá. <br />Ðïéá ìðïñåß íá åßíáé ãéá ðáñÜäåéãìá ç ðïëéôéêÞ ôïõ óõíäéêÜôïõ ïéêïäüìùí- ãéáôß ó’ áõôüí ôï êëÜäï äïõëåýïõí ïé ðåñéóóüôåñïé «îÝíïé» åñãÜôåò. <br />ÁõôÞ ðïõ åíþ æçôÜ «ßóá äéêáéþìáôá» äéáéùíßæåé ùóôüóï ôï êáèåóôþò ðáñáíïìßáò êáé ìüíï ìå ôçí ðñïûðüèåóç ðïõ âÜæåé « ãá íá äïõëÝøåé îÝíïò, ðñÝðåé êáíÝíáò Ýëëçíáò íá ìçí åßíáé Üíåñãïò «; Óå ðïéá êáðéôáëéóôéêÞ ÷þñá õðÜñ÷åé, Þ õðÞñîå ðïôÝ, ÐËÇÑÇÓ ÁÐÁÓ×ÏËÇÓÇ ãéá íá ôç ìÜèïõìå êáé ìåßò; <br />Áò áöÞóïõìå ëïéðüí ôçí áâáíôáäüñéêç óôÜóç «ìáò « áãáðçôïß óõíäéêáëéóôÝò. <br />Óôç ÂåñáíæÝñïõ 1 Ý÷ïõìå Ýíá óõíäéêÜôï. Ïëüêëçñï üñïöï áðü ãñáöåßá êáé ìéá ôåñÜóôéá áßèïõóá. Ó´áõôü ôï óõíäéêÜôï åß÷áôå ôç åõáéóèçóßá ( ãéá íá ìç ðïýìå ôï èñÜóóïò) íá öéëïîåíÞóåôå, íá áêïýóåôå êáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá íá óõìðáñáóôáèåßôå óôçí ðïñåßá ôçò ¸íùóçò «äçìïêñáôéêþí áóôõíïìéêþí». <br />Ãéá ôïõò áëëïäáðïýò óõíÜäåëöïõò ìáò ãéáôß äåí êÜíåôå ôï ßäéï; <br />Áðü ðéá ðÜóôá åßóáóôå åóåßò ôÝëïò ðÜíôùí; <br /> <br /> ÁÐÏ ÐÅÉÍÁ ÐÅÈÁÍÅ. <br />ÏñéóìÝíá êùëü-êÜíáëá ( äåí åßìáóôå «áîéïðñåðåßò« èá âéáóôåßôå íá ðåßôå), áíáêïßíùóáí áõôÞ ôçí ôçíåßäçóç: <br />Áëâáíüò âñÝèçêå ðåèáìÝíïò óå ðáãêÜêé óôç ïìüíïéá. <br />ÐÝèáíå AÎÉÏÐÑÅÐÅÓÔÁÔÁ áöïý äåí Ýêáíå êáìéÜ Üôéìç ðñÜîç ãéá íá æÞóåé ,ïýôå êëÝöôçò Ýãéíå…! ÌðñÜâï ôïõ ðïõ ðÝèáíå áðü ôçí ðåßíá! <br />Êáôáëáâáßíåôå ôþñá ôçí ïñãÞ ìáò; <br /> «ÔÁ ËÅÖÔÁ ÌÁÓ» <br />Ôá ÊÙËÏÊÁÍÁËÁ äåí âñÞêáí ìéá áíèñþðéíç êïõâÝíôá íá ðïõí, ìéá äéáìáñôõñßá, ìðñïóôÜ óôï èÝáìá ðïõ áðëþò ðáñïõóßáæáí: <br />Ç áóôõíïìßá åðéâéâÜæåé âßáéá áëëïäáðïýò óå ëåùöïñåßï ãéá íá ôïõò ðÜåé «ðßóù» óôç ÷þñá ôïõò. Ôç ßäéá óôéãìÞ ðïëëïß «ãéá ôá ëåöôÜ ôïõò» êáé ðáßñíïõí äçìüóéá ôçí îåôóßðùôç áðÜíôçóç áðü ôïõò áóôõíïìéêïýò ðùò èá ðÜñïõí ôá ëåöôÜ ôïõò «üôáí îáíÜ-ãõñßóïõí ìå Üäåéá åñãáóßáò». Ðïéá Üäåéá âñå áëÞôåò, áõôÞ ðïõ ÄÅÍ ÔÏÕÓ ÄÉÍÅÔÅ, ãéá ôïõò åêìåôáëëåýåóôå äéðëÜ êáé ôñéðëÜ êáé ãéá íá «óðÜôå» ôáõôü÷ñïíá êáé ôï…ýøïò ôù ìåñïêÜìáôùí; <br />ÁëÞôåò, å áëÞôåò! <br /> ÔÏ ÔÏÌÁÑÉ. <br />¸íáò áëÞôçò «êáôáóêåõáóôÞò» óôçí ÃëõöÜäá ÷ñùóôÜåé 60 (åîÞíôá)÷éëéÜäåò äñ÷. óå Áëâáíü ïéêïãåíåéÜñ÷ç ðïõ ðïõ åãêáôÝëåéøå ôçí ïéêïãÝíåéá ôïõ ãéá ëßãåò ìÝñåò – ìå óêïðü íá âãÜëåé ëßãá ÷ñÞìáôá ðÜñá ðÜíù ãéá íá áíôáðåîÝëèåé êáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá íá åðéóôñÝøåé ðßóù óôç ÷þñá ôïõ. Äïýëåøå 20 ïëüêëçñåò ìÝñåò, ìå ôñßá ÷éëéÜñéêá ìåñïêÜìáôï ( ôï 1/3 áðü ôï êáíïíéêü) êáé ðåñéìÝíåé Üëëåò 2 ìÝñåò ÷ùñßò äïõëåéÜ, ìðáò êáé öéëïôéìçèåß ï Üèëéïò êáé ôïí ðëçñþóåé ãéá íá åðéóôñÝøåé ðßóù óôç ÷þñá ôïõ. <br />ÌÝ÷ñé ðüôå èá ðåñéìÝíåé áõôüò ï Üíèñùðïò, ï áëëïäáðüò, ï «îÝíïò»; ÌÝ÷ñé ðüôå èá ôïí åìðáßæåé ï áóõíåßäçôïò »ðáôñéþôçò» ìáò; <br />Åìåßò êÜôé ðñÝðåé íá êÜíïõìå åíÜíôéá óå êÜèå ôïìÜñé êáé èá ôï êÜíïõìå.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: black">Ôá ðáñáðÜíù êåßìåíá ðñïÝñ÷ïíôáé áðü åäþ: <a href="http://politikokafeneio.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=140537#140537." target="_blank">http://politikokafeneio.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=140537#140537.</a> <br /> <br />×èÝò ôá áíÝâáóá óôï "ÐáôÜñé": <br /> <br /><a href="http://patari.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15" target="_blank">http://patari.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15</a> <br /> <br />ìáæß ìå ôï áêüëïõèï:</span></span> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Obviously the working class has the historic destination to put an end to imperialist barbarity. It is impossible to become a hunter of immigrants. It cannot come into conflict with workers of other nationalities, which the barbaric policies of imperialism has forced them to immigrate, so as to survive. There is no need to add that it would lose its true opponent and true responsibility for today’s sad situation. It would destroy morally and politically its movement. <br /> The workers movement can only accept guardians, which serve its interests. It must accept policies and slogans which are equally acceptable by the immigrants and which unite all not divide. Independently from nationality the workers must fight for equal rights and equal treatment for equal work. For a basic wage which guarantees a basic standard of living. Greek and immigrant workers should state to the political and economic oligarchy: Stop! Up to here! Let the immigrants be legalised which live and work in the country, but to also stop the further entrance of immigrants, as that will economically destroy the local and foreign born workers and will politically destroy its movement. It will lead, finally to decay and decline of the whole of society. <br /> KDE September 1998</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: black">Áõôü ôï ôåëåõôáßï, ìáæß ìå Üëëá, ðñïÝñ÷åôáé áðü åäþ: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.evangelos12.btinternet.co.uk/immigration.htm#Illegal" target="_blank">http://www.evangelos12.btinternet.co.uk/immigration.htm#Illegal</a> immigration and multiculturalism <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.evangelos12.btinternet.co.uk/immigration.htm#n2" target="_blank">http://www.evangelos12.btinternet.co.uk/immigration.htm#n2</a> <br /> <br />¼ëá õðü ôïí ãåíéêü ôßôëï: Fourth international bulletins - Articles on immigration. <br /> <br />Áí äåí ìå áðáôÜ ç ìíÞìç ìïõ, ôá link åß÷áí äùèåß, ðáëáéüôåñá óôï Ð.Ê Þ êáé åäþ óôï "ÑåóÜëôï". <br /> <br />Ñùôïýóá ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôç ãíçóéüôçôÜ ôïõò, äéåôýðùíá áðïñßåò, êáé Ýêáíá ïñéóìÝíá ó÷üëéá. Ç äçìïóßåõóÞ ìïõ áõôÞ ÅÎÁÖÁÍÉÓÔÇÊÅ. Óôç èÝóç ôçò õðÜñ÷åé ôþñá ìßá öñÜóç ("Óôï ðáôÜñé äåí öéëïîåíïýíôáé óêïõðßäéá") ôçí ïðïßá ðïôÝ äåí Ýãñáøá åãþ - áí êáé åìöáíßæåôáé ìå ôï nick ìïõ.</span></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
