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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumborder"> <tr> <td class="forumtitle" width="22%"></th> <td class="forumtitle"></th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b></b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 19, 2009 10:03 am<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed">ÁãáðçôÝ ÄéðëùìÜôç <br />Ôçí ìßá ëåò: <br /> <br />2[i]) Ïðïéïò åéíáé áèåïò åéíáé áíáãêáóôéêá êáé õðçñåôçò [u]íåïôáîéêùí ðñïóôáãùí[/u]? Áõôï åéíáé ðïëõ éó÷õñï åðé÷åéñçìá, ìðïñåéò íá ôï õðïóôçñéîåéò?[/i] <br /> <br />êáé ôçí Üëëç: <br /> <br />[[i]u]Ðïéïò ðñïêáëåé ôçí õðïíïìåõóç? ãéáôé? ìå ðïéïí ôñïðï ðáéñíïíôáé ïé áðïöáóåéò? ðïôå îåêéíçóå ç íåá ôáîç ðñáãìáôùí?[/u]ãéáôé ôï order ìåôáöñáæåôáé óå ôáîç êáé ï÷é áñ÷ç? Ïôáí ìéá èåùñéá äçìéïõñãåé ðåñéóóïôåñá åñùôçìáôá áðï áõôá ðïõ áðáíôáåé ðñïöáíùò äåí åéíáé êáëç èåùñéá. <br />Åðéóçò, ïôáí ãéá ôï éäéï öáéíïìåíï õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëåò åîçãçóåéò ç áñ÷ç åéíáé íá åðéëåãïõìå áõôç ìå ôéò ëéãïôåñåò õðïèåóåéò (îõñáöé ôïõ Ïêêáì). Ïôáí ãéá íá åîçãçóåéò åíá öáéíïìåíï ðñåðåé íá äçìéïõñãçóåéò ìéá ðáãêïóìéá êñõöç óõíïìùóéá êáôé äåí ðáåé êáëá. <br />[quote] <br />Ïôé äçëáäç ç åðéóôçìç å÷åé áðáíôçóåé óå ðïëëá åñùôçìáôá ãêñåìéæïíôáò ôá èåìåëéá ïëùí ôùí èñçóêåéùí ôïõ ðëáíçôç, êáíïíôáò ðïëëïõò íá åðéëåîïõí ôï äñïìï ôçò áèåéáò äåí åéíáé êáëç åîçãçóç? Ðñåðåé ðáíôá íá õðáñ÷ïõí ïé "êáêïé" ðïõ èåëïõí ôï êáêï êáé ôï èáíáôï ôïõ åëëçíéêïõ åèíïõò? <br />[b]Ïôé åìåéò åéìáóôå ç åèíáñá [/b]ðïõ èá åéíáé ôï ìåãáëï åìðïäéï óôá ðëáíá ôçò [u]íåáò ôáîçò ðñáãìáôùí[/u]?Sorry äåí ìïõ êáíåé ãéá åîçãçóç [/i] <br /> <br />ÔåëéêÜ ôé íïìßæåéò üôé óõìâáßíåé; ÕðÜñ÷åé áõôü ðïõ ïíïìÜæïõìå íÝá ôÜîç ðñáãìÜôùí Þ ü÷é; <br />Ãéáôß ôüóï ìßóïò ãéá ôçí "åèíÜñá"; Óå ÷áëÜåé ðïõ ìÝóá óå ìéá êñßóéìç êáôÜóôáóç êïéôÜìå ðñþôá ôï óðßôé ìáò;-ìÞðùò èåò íá ðåñéìÝíïõìå Ýíá äéåèíÞ ïñãáíéóìü íá ìáò óþóåé; <br />¼óï ãéá ôçí åðéóôÞìç êáé ôéò áðáíôÞóåéò óå üëá ôá åñùôÞìáôá, óå ðüóï êáéñü ðéóôåýåéò üôé èá ôï Ý÷åéò ãõñßóåé óôçí ãéüãêá êáé ôïí äéáëïãéóìü ãéá íá äþóåéò ðíåõìáôéêüôçôá óôï åãþ óïõ; <br /> <br />Êáé óå ôåëéêÞ áíÜëõóç ãéá íá ìçí îåöåýãïõìå áðü ôï èÝìá ìáò áõôü ðïõ Ýãéíå ìå ôçí Üñíçóç üñêïõ åßíáé, áñÝóåé äåí áñÝóåé áíôéóõíôáãìáôéêü ìå üôé áõôü óçìáßíåé ãéá áíèñþðïõò ðïõ Ýëáâáí øÞöï ðïëéôþí ãéá íá ôïõò åêðñïóùðßóïõí óôçí âïõëÞ.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ÄÉðëùìáôçò</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 17, 2009 11:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Anonymous :</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Ðñïò äéðëùìÜôç: <br />Ïé èñçóêåßåò åßíáé ìÝñïò ôçò áíèñþðéíçò êïéíùíßáò êáé äçìéïõñãïýí êïéíùíéêÝò äïìÝò, êïéíùíéêÜ ðéóôåýù, ÷áñáêôÞñá êáé óõíÞèåéáò óôïí êÜèå Üíèñùðï. ¶ó÷åôá áðü ôï áí êÜðïéïò ðéóôåýåé Þ ü÷é. <br /> <br />Áí äéÜâáæåò Ìáî ÂÝìðåñ, èá Ýâëåðåò áò ðïýìå ôç óçìáóßá ôçò ðñïôåóôáíôéêÞò çèéêÞò óôç äçìéïõñãßá ôïõ êáðéôáëéóìïý. Äåò ôïõò ¸ëëçíåò ôçò ÁìåñéêÞò. Ìðïñåß óôç èñçóêåßá íá åßíáé Ïñèüäïîïé, áëëÜ ç ðñïóÝããéóÞ ôïõò óôá êïéíùíéêÜ êáé ïéêïíïìéêÜ öáéíüìåíá åßíáé ðñïôåóôáíôéêÞò öýóçò, ãéáôß Ýôóé åßíáé åêåßíç ç êïéíùíßá, åêåß Ý÷ïõí ìåãáëþóåé.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Äåí äéáöùíù ïôé ç èñçóêåéá å÷åé åðçññåáóåé ôï ðùò åéíáé ç êïéíùíéá ìáò óçìåñá. Ôï åãñáøá êáé ðéï ðáíù. Äåí åéíáé ïìùò ôï ìïíï, êáé öõóéêá äåí óçìáéíåé ïôé ç åëëåéøç ðéóôçò Þ ç åëëåéøç èñçóêåõôéêçò ðáéäåéáò Þ èñçóêåõôéêïõ ÷áñáêôçñá äåé÷íåé ôçò åëëåéøç åëëçíéêïôçôáò Þ åëåã÷ï áðï îåíá êåíôñá êôë. <br /> <br />Ðáíôùò ãéá íá å÷ïõìå ìéá ðéï óöáéñéêç áðïøç, õðáñ÷åé êáé ç áëëç ïøç ôïõ íïìéóìáôïò, ôï ðùò ïé êïéíùíéêåò áîéåò ãåííïõí èñçóêåéåò - Íéôóå, Geneaology of Morals. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Äåí åßíáé èÝìá áíåîéèñçóêåßáò. ÊÜðïéïò äéáíïçôÞò Ýëåãå: "¼ôáí ìïõ ëÝíå 'Üèåïò' ôïõò ñùôÜù: 'Üèåïò, íáé, áëëÜ ðïéáò èñçóêåßáò;'".</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Íáé, áëëá ôï èåìá ìå áõôá ôá ôóéôáôá, åéíáé ïôé ïôáí ÷ñçóéìïðïéïõíôáé off context ÷áíïõí ôï íïçìá ôïõò. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Óôçí ðåñßðôùóç ôçò ÅëëÜäáò êáé ôùí íåïôáîéêþí ó÷åäßùí, ôï æÞôçìá åßíáé ç õðïíüìåõóç ôçò åèíéêÞò ìáò óõíåßäçóçò êáé ç åöáñìïãÞ ôïõ äüãìáôïò Êßóéíãêåñ ãéá ôïí Åëëçíéóìü. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Ðïéïò ðñïêáëåé ôçí õðïíïìåõóç? ãéáôé? ìå ðïéïí ôñïðï ðáéñíïíôáé ïé áðïöáóåéò? ðïôå îåêéíçóå ç íåá ôáîç ðñáãìáôùí?ãéáôé ôï order ìåôáöñáæåôáé óå ôáîç êáé ï÷é áñ÷ç? Ïôáí ìéá èåùñéá äçìéïõñãåé ðåñéóóïôåñá åñùôçìáôá áðï áõôá ðïõ áðáíôáåé ðñïöáíùò äåí åéíáé êáëç èåùñéá. <br />Åðéóçò, ïôáí ãéá ôï éäéï öáéíïìåíï õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëåò åîçãçóåéò ç áñ÷ç åéíáé íá åðéëåãïõìå áõôç ìå ôéò ëéãïôåñåò õðïèåóåéò (îõñáöé ôïõ Ïêêáì). Ïôáí ãéá íá åîçãçóåéò åíá öáéíïìåíï ðñåðåé íá äçìéïõñãçóåéò ìéá ðáãêïóìéá êñõöç óõíïìùóéá êáôé äåí ðáåé êáëá. <br />[quote] <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Íá ÷ôõðÞóïõí ãëþóóá, èñçóêåßá, éóôïñßá, âáèéÜ óôéò ðïëéôéóìéêÝò ìáò ñßæåò. ÁõôÜ êÜíïõí üóïé áðïññßðôïõí ôç èñçóêåõôéêüôçôá áðü ôï äçìüóéï âßï. Áõôüò åßíáé ï óôü÷ïò êÜðïéùí êÝíôñùí, êáé ðïëëïß çëßèéïé ðïëéôéêïß êáé äçìïóéïãñÜöïé ôá õéïèåôïýí ãéáôß åßíáé politically correct</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Ïôé äçëáäç ç åðéóôçìç å÷åé áðáíôçóåé óå ðïëëá åñùôçìáôá ãêñåìéæïíôáò ôá èåìåëéá ïëùí ôùí èñçóêåéùí ôïõ ðëáíçôç, êáíïíôáò ðïëëïõò íá åðéëåîïõí ôï äñïìï ôçò áèåéáò äåí åéíáé êáëç åîçãçóç? Ðñåðåé ðáíôá íá õðáñ÷ïõí ïé "êáêïé" ðïõ èåëïõí ôï êáêï êáé ôï èáíáôï ôïõ åëëçíéêïõ åèíïõò? <br />Ïôé åìåéò åéìáóôå ç åèíáñá ðïõ èá åéíáé ôï ìåãáëï åìðïäéï óôá ðëáíá ôçò íåáò ôáîçò ðñáãìáôùí?Sorry äåí ìïõ êáíåé ãéá åîçãçóç</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b></b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 17, 2009 7:12 pm<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed">Ðñïò äéðëùìÜôç: <br /> <br />Äåí åßíáé èÝìá áíåîéèñçóêåßáò. ÊÜðïéïò äéáíïçôÞò Ýëåãå: "¼ôáí ìïõ ëÝíå 'Üèåïò' ôïõò ñùôÜù: 'Üèåïò, íáé, áëëÜ ðïéáò èñçóêåßáò;'". Ïé èñçóêåßåò åßíáé ìÝñïò ôçò áíèñþðéíçò êïéíùíßáò êáé äçìéïõñãïýí êïéíùíéêÝò äïìÝò, êïéíùíéêÜ ðéóôåýù, ÷áñáêôÞñá êáé óõíÞèåéáò óôïí êÜèå Üíèñùðï. ¶ó÷åôá áðü ôï áí êÜðïéïò ðéóôåýåé Þ ü÷é. <br /> <br />Áí äéÜâáæåò Ìáî ÂÝìðåñ, èá Ýâëåðåò áò ðïýìå ôç óçìáóßá ôçò ðñïôåóôáíôéêÞò çèéêÞò óôç äçìéïõñãßá ôïõ êáðéôáëéóìïý. Äåò ôïõò ¸ëëçíåò ôçò ÁìåñéêÞò. Ìðïñåß óôç èñçóêåßá íá åßíáé Ïñèüäïîïé, áëëÜ ç ðñïóÝããéóÞ ôïõò óôá êïéíùíéêÜ êáé ïéêïíïìéêÜ öáéíüìåíá åßíáé ðñïôåóôáíôéêÞò öýóçò, ãéáôß Ýôóé åßíáé åêåßíç ç êïéíùíßá, åêåß Ý÷ïõí ìåãáëþóåé. <br /> <br />Óõíåðþò, ç ýðáñîç êõñßáñ÷çò èñçóêåßáò äåí åìðïäßæåé ôï äéêáßùìá ôçò áíåîéèñçóêåßáò. ¶èåç êïéíùíßá äåí õðÜñ÷åé. ÉóôïñéêÜ, üëåò ïé êïéíùíßåò åß÷áí êÜðïéá êõñßáñ÷ç èñçóêåßá. <br /> <br />Óôçí ðåñßðôùóç ôçò ÅëëÜäáò êáé ôùí íåïôáîéêþí ó÷åäßùí, ôï æÞôçìá åßíáé ç õðïíüìåõóç ôçò åèíéêÞò ìáò óõíåßäçóçò êáé ç åöáñìïãÞ ôïõ äüãìáôïò Êßóéíãêåñ ãéá ôïí Åëëçíéóìü. Íá ÷ôõðÞóïõí ãëþóóá, èñçóêåßá, éóôïñßá, âáèéÜ óôéò ðïëéôéóìéêÝò ìáò ñßæåò. ÁõôÜ êÜíïõí üóïé áðïññßðôïõí ôç èñçóêåõôéêüôçôá áðü ôï äçìüóéï âßï. Áõôüò åßíáé ï óôü÷ïò êÜðïéùí êÝíôñùí, êáé ðïëëïß çëßèéïé ðïëéôéêïß êáé äçìïóéïãñÜöïé ôá õéïèåôïýí ãéáôß åßíáé politically correct. Áí ïé ßäéïé æïýóáí åðß ÷ïýíôáò, èá Þôáí ïé ðñþôïé ðïõ èá äÞëùíáí ðéóôïß ×ñéóôéáíïß.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rovespieros</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 17, 2009 12:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="font-weight: bold">Äåí ìðïñïýìå íá êÜíïõìå ôßðïôá ãéá óáò. <br />Ðïñåýóïõ óôï äñüìï óïõ. <br />ÊÜðïéá ìÝñá, üôáí äåí èá óïõ Ý÷åé ìåßíåé ôßðïôá, áí öõóéêÜ åßóáé êÜðïéïò êáëüðéóôïò, êáé ü÷é áðü ôá ãíùóôÜ æéæÜíéá ôïõ éíôåñíÝô, èá êáôáëÜâåéò. <br />Íá åßóáé êáëÜ...</span></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ÄÉðëùìáôçò</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 17, 2009 11:03 am<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ÑïâåóðéÝñïò :</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Ç Ïñèïäïîßá, ùò éóôïñéêÞ, ðïëéôéóìéêÞ êáé ðïëéôéêÞ äïìÞ åßíáé óõíõöáóìÝíç ìå ôï åëëçíéêü Ýèíïò, áðïôåëåß Ýíáí éóôü êïéíùíéêÞò óõíåßäçóçò. <br />áðü áõôÞ ôçí Üðïøç ôçí ðñïóåããßæïõìå êáé ü÷é áðü ôçí Üðïøç ôçò Ðßóôçò óôï Èåü...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Áõôç ç ðñïôáóç äåí ìïõ ëååé ôéðïôá êáé äåí êáôáëáâáéíù ãéáôé ðñåðåé íá ôçí äå÷ôù ùò óùóôç. Óáöùò êáé ç ïñèïäïîéá å÷åé åðçññåáóåé óôá åðéðåäá ðïõ áíáöåñåéò, ïðùò å÷ïõí åðçññåáóåé ðïëëá ïìùò áêïìá. Ôï ãåãïíïò ïôé åéìáóôáí êïììáôé ôçò Ïè. Áõôïêñáôïñéáò óáöùò êáé åé÷å áíôéêôõðï óôï ðùò å÷åé äéáìïñöùèåé ç êïéíùíéá ìáò óìñ. Áõôï äåí óçìáéíåé ïôé ç "ïèùìáíïóõíç" åéíáé óõíõöáóìåíç ìå ôï åëëçíéêï åèíïò. <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Óõíåðþò êÜèå "Üèåïò" äå óçìáßíåé êáé õðçñÝôçò ôçò ÍÝáò ÔÜîçò...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Äåí îåñù ãéáôé îåêéíáò ìå ôï "óõíåðùò" áëëá áêïìá êáé íá äå÷ôù ïôé ç ðñùôç ðñïôáóç óïõ çôáí óùóôç, äåí êáôáëáâáéíù ðùò óõíáãåéò ôçí äåõôåñç ðñïôáóç óïõ. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">äéÜâáóå êÜðïéá Üñèñá åäþ: <br /><a href="http://www.resaltomag.gr/113.mag" target="_blank">http://www.resaltomag.gr/113.mag</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Ôá áñèñá äåí ìïõ ëåíå ôðô ãéáôé áðïôåëïõí áðëá áðïøåéò. Ìáëéóôá, êáôá ôç ãíùìç ìïõ, åéíáé ãåìáôá ëïêéêá áëìáôá êáé áöçíïõí áöèïíï ÷ùñï ãéá êñéôéêç. <br />Ð÷. ëååé ï óõããñáöåáò <br /><span style="font-style: italic"> "[åéíáé]ãåãïíüò üôé ç ïñèüäïîç èñçóêåõôéêÞ ðßóôç áðïôåëåß óôïé÷åßï ôçò åèíéêÞò óõíåßäçóçò"</span> <br />êáé ãéá íá ôï äéêáéïëïãçóåé ëååé <br /><span style="font-style: italic">"Áõôü êáèïñßóôçêå áðü ôçí éóôïñßá, áðü ôéò óõíèÞêåò ãÝííçóçò ôïõ óýã÷ñïíïõ åëëçíéêïý êñÜôïõò, ìÝóá áðü ìáêñü÷ñïíïõò êáé óêëçñïýò áãþíåò ãéá ôçí áðïôßíáîç ôçò ïèùìáíéêÞò êõñéáñ÷ßáò, áãþíåò ðïõ åìðíÝïíôáí ü÷é ìüíï áðü ôéò éäÝåò ôçò ÃáëëéêÞò ÅðáíÜóôáóçò, áëëÜ êáé áðü ôéò ðáñáäüóåéò ôçò ÷ñéóôéáíéêÞò ïñèïäïîßáò."</span> <br />Áêïìá êáé íá äå÷ôïõìå ïôé ôï äåõôåñï åéíáé óùóôï, óáöùò êáé ôï ðñùôï äåí åéíáé áìåóï óõìðåñáóìá. Ãéáôé ôï ðùò áíôéëáìâáíïìáé ôçí ôáõôïôçôá ìïõ ôùñá ìðïñåé íá áðå÷åé ðáñáóáãêáò ìå ôï ðùò áíôéëáìâáíïíôáí ôçí ôáõôïôçôá ôïõò áõôïé ðïõ äçìéïõñãçóáí ôéò óõíèçêåò ãéá ôçí äçìéïõñãéá ôïõ êñáôïõò. Ôåôïéïõ åéäïõò óöáëìáôá ôõðïõ slipery slope ìðïñù íá âñù ðáìðïëëá óôá áñèñá ðïõ ðñïôåéíåéò. [/i]</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rovespieros</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 16, 2009 3:36 pm<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Ç Ïñèïäïîßá, ùò éóôïñéêÞ, ðïëéôéóìéêÞ êáé ðïëéôéêÞ äïìÞ åßíáé óõíõöáóìÝíç ìå ôï åëëçíéêü Ýèíïò, áðïôåëåß Ýíáí éóôü êïéíùíéêÞò óõíåßäçóçò. <br />áðü áõôÞ ôçí Üðïøç ôçí ðñïóåããßæïõìå êáé ü÷é áðü ôçí Üðïøç ôçò Ðßóôçò óôï Èåü... <br /> <br /><span style="color: red">Óõíåðþò êÜèå "Üèåïò" äå óçìáßíåé êáé õðçñÝôçò ôçò ÍÝáò ÔÜîçò...</span> <br /> <br /><span style="color: blue">äéÜâáóå êÜðïéá Üñèñá åäþ:</span> <br /><a href="http://www.resaltomag.gr/113.mag" target="_blank">http://www.resaltomag.gr/113.mag</a></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ÄÉðëùìáôçò</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 16, 2009 10:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> : </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed">Ãåéá óå ïëïõò, åéìáé êáéíïõñéï ìåëïò. <br /> <br />Å÷ù 2 åñùôçóåéò ãéá ôçí óõããñáöåá ôïõ áñèñïõ. <br /> <br />1) Åãù ðïõ åéìáé áèåïò, ðïõ ðéóôåõù óå áõôá ðïõ ìïõ ëååé ç åðéóôçìç êáé ï÷é óå áõôá ðïõ ìïõ ëååé åíá "ìáãéêï" âéâëéï ðïõ äåí îåñïõìå áêñéâùò êáôù áðï ðïéåò óõíèçêåò ãñáöôçêå, ìðïñù íá ëåù ïôé åéìéá Åëëçíáò? <br /> <br />Ïôáí ãñáöåéò ïôé "ç Ýííïéá ôïõ Ýèíïõò êáé ç óõíõöáóìÝíç ìå áõôü Ýííïéá ôçò Ïñèïäïîßáò" ðñïöáíùò ðñåðåé áõôá ôá 2 íá åéíáé 1, êáé ôï åíá äåí ìðïñåé íá õðáñîåé ÷ùñéò ôï áëëï. Ôï ðéóôåõåéò áõôï? <br /> <br />2) Ïðïéïò åéíáé áèåïò åéíáé áíáãêáóôéêá êáé õðçñåôçò íåïôáîéêùí ðñïóôáãùí? Áõôï åéíáé ðïëõ éó÷õñï åðé÷åéñçìá, ìðïñåéò íá ôï õðïóôçñéîåéò?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/alexis2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ÈÁËÅÉÁ</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/newhome/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="" title="" border="0" /><span class="gen">: 15, 2009 2:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> : Ïé «åðáíáóôÜôåò» ôùí íåïôáîéêþí ðñïóôáãþí!!!</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="genmed"><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal"> <br /><span style="color: red"><span style="font-weight: bold">Ïé «åðáíáóôÜôåò» ôùí íåïôáîéêþí ðñïóôáãþí!!!</span></span></span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">35 ÷ñüíéá, óôï êïéíïâïõëåõôéêü êáèåóôþò ôçò ìåôáðïëßôåõóçò, ïé ðÜíôåò ôñÝ÷áíå íá öéëÞóïõí ôï ÷Ýñé ôçò ÅêêëçóéáóôéêÞò éåñáñ÷ßáò…</span> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br /> <span style="color: red">Ïñêéæüíôïõóáí óôç ÂïõëÞ ìå «èñçóêåõôéêÞ» êáé «åèíéêÞ åõëÜâåéá»:</span></span> <span style="font-weight: bold">õðïêñéôéêÜ âÝâáéá, áëëÜ ôüôå ÏÕÄÅÉÓ åß÷å äéáíïçèåß íá «äçëþóåé» ôçí «åðáíáóôáôéêüôçôÜ» ôïõ åíÜíôéá óôá åèíéêÜ óýìâïëá êáé èñçóêåõôéêÜ Ýèéìá.</span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Ïé ðñþôåò «åðáíáóôáôéêÝò áìöéóâçôÞóåéò»</span> ôùí åèíéêþí êáé Ïñèüäïîùí èåóìþí, óõìâüëùí êáé åèßìùí, Üñ÷éóáí åðß <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Óçìßôç, </span>üôáí äçëáäÞ ôï <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">ðñüóôáîáí</span> ôá ðëáíçôéêÜ êÝíôñá ôçò ðáãêïóìéïðïßçóçò: <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: blue">üôáí ç Ïñèïäïîßá êáé êÜèå ôé ôï «åèíéêü» ìðÞêáí óôï óôü÷áóôñï ôçò ÍÝáò ÔÜîçò.</span></span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">¼ôáí </span>ç Ýííïéá ôïõ Ýèíïõò êáé ç óõíõöáóìÝíç ìå áõôü Ýííïéá ôçò Ïñèïäïîßáò Ýðñåðå íá åîáëåéöèïýí ãéáôß áðïôåëïýóáí éóôïýò óõëëïãéêÞò óõíåßäçóçò êáé ìíÞìçò, <span style="font-weight: bold">äçëáäÞ ÁÍÔÉÓÔÁÓÇÓ óôïí ïäïóôñùôÞñá ôçò ÍÝáò ÔÜîçò.</span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: red">ÁÑ×ÉÓÁÍ áðü ôüôå óõóôçìáôéêÜ, óôáèåñÜ êáé áíåëÝçôá ïé åðéèÝóåéò åíáíôßïí ôçò Åêêëçóßáò:</span> </span>ÎáöíéêÜ áíáêÜëõøáí ôï «óêïôáäéóìü» ôçò üëïé åêåßíïé ïé ïðïßïé ìÝ÷ñé ôüôå ôçí ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýóáí ãéá êáèåóôùôéêÞ êáôÞ÷çóç: <span style="font-weight: bold">Ìéá íåñïðïíôÞ öùôáäéóôéêþí ïìïâñïíôéþí êáôÜ ôçò Ïñèïäïîßáò êáôÝêëõóå ôá ðÜíôá. <br /></span> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <span style="color: red">¼ëá ôá «êáêÜ» êáé ôá «äáéìüíéá» ôçò éóôïñßáò êáé ôçò êïéíùíßáò ïöåßëïíôáí, óýìöùíá ìå ôéò ÍÝåò ÖùôáäéóôéêÝò ÉäÝåò, óôçí Åêêëçóßá!!!</span> </span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Ôçí ßäéá ôý÷ç åß÷áí êáé üëá ôá éóôïñéêÜ åèíéêÜ óýìâïëá êáé ïé áãùíéóôéêÝò ðáñáäüóåéò:</span><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: blue"> Áðü åèíéêïýò áãùíéóôÝò, ôçí åëëçíéêÞ éóôïñßá, ôç óçìáßá, ôéò åèíéêÝò ðáñåëÜóåéò, ìÝ÷ñé ïðïéáäÞðïôå Ýííïéá ðïõ óçìáôïäïôïýóå ôçí åèíéêÞ ìáò õðüóôáóç…</span></span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-weight: bold">Ôþñá ïé «åðáíáóôÜôåò» ôùí ðëáíçôéêþí, éìðåñéáëéóôéêþí ðñïóôáãþí, óçêþíïõí «ìðáúñÜêé» êáé ìÝóá óôï «åèíéêü êïéíïâïýëéï».</span> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold"> <br /> <span style="color: red">Ôþñá èõìÞèçêáí ôçí áíôéóôáóéáêÞ ôïõò «áíôÜñôéêç» åíçëéêßùóç…</span></span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-weight: bold">Ìéá «áíôáñóßá»</span> ðïõ ðåñéïñßæåôáé óôçí åðéäåêôéêÞ ðåñéöñüíçóç ôùí åèíéêþí êïéíïâïõëåõôéêþí êáíüíùí. Åßíáé ôüóï õðüäïõëïé «åðáíáóôÜôåò» ðïõ åîáíôëïýí ôçí «åðáíáóôáôéêüôçôÜ» ôïõò óôï íá ìç óçêþíïõí ôï ÷Ýñé óôçí ïñêùìïóßá!!! <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> Åêôåëïýí äïõëéêÜ üëåò ôéò íôéñåêôßâåò ôïõ ðëáíçôéêïý êñÜôïõò êáé ðñïùèïýí ìå öáíáôéóìü ôá éäåïëïãÞìáôÜ ôïõ êáé ôï ðáßæïõí åðáíáóôÜôåò óôçí ïñêùìïóßá!!!</span> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <span style="color: red">ÖéëÜíå êáôïõñçìÝíåò ðïäéÝò êáé ãëåßöïõí áóýóôïëá ðñïò ðÜóá êáôåýèõíóç ãéá íá åêëåãïýí êáé êÜíïõí ôïõò «èéãìÝíïõò» ìå ôï íá õðïêëéèïýí óôá åèíéêÜ êïéíïâïõëåõôéêÜ Ýèéìá.</span></span> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">35 ÷ñüíéá</span> óáí èëéâåñïß äïýëïé óçêþíáíå ôï ÷Ýñé (ôüôå äåí «èéãüíôïõóáí» áðü ôç èñçóêåõôéêÞ ôåëåôÞ) êáé îáöíéêÜ «áíáêÜëõøáí» ôïí áðáñ÷áéùìÝíï èåóìü… <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Êáé Üèëéïé êáé èëéâåñïß äïýëïé ôùí íåïôáîéêþí ðñïóôáãþí:</span><span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="color: red">Êáé üðùò ðÜíôá óôçí ðñùôïðïñßá üëïé áõôïß ðïõ ðáñÝ÷ïõí ôï «áñéóôåñü» Üëëïèé: «áñéóôåñïß», «ðñïïäåõôéêïß» êáé «åêóõã÷ñïíéóôÝò»…</span></span> <br /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: blue">ÄéáâÜóôå ôá ðáñáêÜôù áðü ôï «Êëáóóéêïðåñßðôùóç»</span>: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.klassikoperiptosi.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.klassikoperiptosi.blogspot.com/</a></span> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-weight: bold">Ïñêùìïóßá óôç ÂïõëÞ:</span>"Ï ÷õëüò ôçò ðáãêïóìéïðïßçóçò äåí ìðïñåß íá ìáãåéñåõôåß êáëÜ áí äå ëéþóïõí ïé íåõñþíåò êáé ìõþíåò ôçò ðïëéôéóôéêÞò ìáò éäéïóõãêñáóßáò" </span></span> <br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://misha.pblogs.gr/2009/10/o-neos-antihristianismos-sta-ypoyrgika-edrana.html" target="_blank">http://misha.pblogs.gr/2009/10/o-neos-antihristianismos-sta-ypoyrgika-edrana.html</a> <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold"> <br />Ç ÷ôåóéíÞ åéêüíá óôç ÂïõëÞ Þôáí ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêÞ. <br />Ðïëëïß õðïõñãïß áñíÞèçêáí íá óçêþóïõí ôï ÷Ýñé ãéá íá ïñêéóôïýí. </span> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Ïýôå áðÞããåéëáí ôï êåßìåíï ôïý üñêïõ.</span> <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Ðñïöáíþò </span>ü÷é ãéáôß åßíáé æçëùôÝò ôïõ åõáããåëéêïý ðáñáããÝëìáôïò ðïõ áðáãïñåýåé ñçôþò ôïí üñêï, áëëÜ ôçñþíôáò ìéÜ óôÜóç áíôéññçóßá óõíåßäçóçò , åðåéäÞ äéáöùíïýí ìå ôçí åìðëïêÞ ôçò Åêêëçóßáò óôá ôåëåôïõñãéêÜ ôçò êñáôéêÞò äéïßêçóçò. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Ìáæß ôïõò ïé íåïóôáëéíéêïß ôïõ ÊÊÅ êáé ïé åèíïìçäåíéóôÝò ôïõ ÓÕÑÉÆÁ.</span> <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Åðéèõìïýí êáô´áñ÷Þí Ýíá Üèñçóêï êñÜôïò,</span> oõóéáóôéêÜ áíáðáýïíôáé óå Ýíá Üèåï êñÜôïò, Ýíá êñÜôïò êáô´áðïìßìçóç ôùí ðñþçí êïììïõíéóôéêþí êáèåóôþôùí óôï ïðïßï ç èñçóêåõôéêüôçôá èåùñåßôï êÜôé óáí øþñá. Ï óôåíüò ößëïò ôïõ íÝïõ ðñùèõðïõñãïý êáé õöõðïõñãüò ê.ÓéöïõíÜêçò ôï åß÷å ðåé îåêÜèáñá üôáí Üöçíå áíïé÷ôü ôï åíäå÷üìåíï íá áöáéñåèåß ï óôáõñüò áêüìá êáé áðü ôç óçìáßá ìáò. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Ï áíôé÷ñéóôéáíéóìüò</span> Ýñ÷åôáé êáé óôá êáè´çìÜò ùò åéóáãüìåíï åê ôçò Åóðåñßáò (ôçí ïðïßá ï Üãéïò Íéêüëáïò Âåëéìßñïâéôò ïíüìáæå «ËåõêÞ Äáéìïíßá» ) öñïýôï. <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Åßíáé áðáßôçóç</span> ôçò íÝáò ðáãêüóìéáò èñçóêåßáò ôçò ìáìùíïëáôñåßáò êáé ôïõ ôå÷íïêñáôéêïý åðéóôçìïíéóìïý. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Ï ÷õëüò ôçò ðáãêïóìéïðïßçóçò</span> äåí ìðïñåß íá ìáãåéñåõôåß êáëÜ áí äå ëéþóïõí ïé íåõñþíåò êáé ìõþíåò ôçò ðïëéôéóôéêÞò ìáò éäéïóõãêñáóßáò ðïõ åßíáé ç ðáñÜäïóç ôçò Ñùìéïóýíçò. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Ç Ïñèüäïîç Åêêëçóßá</span> ðéåæüìåíç áðü ôï êýìá ôçò åêêïóìßêåõóçò èá ìðåß íïìïôåëåéáêÜ óôç ãùíßá ôïõ êïéíùíéêïý âßïõ, åöüóïí äåí ðñïêýøïõí Ýêôáêôåò êáôáóôÜóåéò. ºóùò êÜôé ôÝôïéï íá åßíáé ðëÝïí áðáñáßôçôï þóôå ïé ðïéìÝíåò ìáò íá îáíáâñïýí ôéò óõíôåôáãìÝíåò ôçò åí ×ñéóôþ äéáêïíßáò, ìáêñõíüìåíïé áðü åîïõóéáóôéêÝò íïïôñïðßåò êáé äéáðëïêÝò, êáé åíèõìïýìåíïé ôéò õðïó÷Ýóåéò ôçò áêôçìïóýíçò, ðáñèåíßáò êáé õðáêïÞò ðïõ Ýäùóáí üôáí Ýãéíáí ìïíá÷ïß. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal"> <br /><span style="color: red">Äåí óÞêùóáí ôï ÷Ýñé ôïõò ôï ÊÊÅ <br />ï ÓÕÑÉÆÁ <br />êáé ôÝóóåñéò ôïõ ÐáÓïÊ</span> </span> <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&artid=293920&ct=32&dt=15/10/2009" target="_blank">http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&artid=293920&ct=32&dt=15/10/2009</a> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">ÐÝìðôç 15 Ïêôùâñßïõ 2009 </span> <br /> <br />Óôï åðßêåíôñï ôïõ åíäéáöÝñïíôïò âñÝèçêå ôï èÝìá ôïõ üñêïõ, êáèþò ï ÓÕÑÉÆÁ åß÷å æçôÞóåé íá ïñêéóôïýí ïé âïõëåõôÝò ôïõ ìå ðïëéôéêü êáé ü÷é ìå èñçóêåõôéêü üñêï. ÌÜëéóôá õðÞñîå êáé ó÷åôéêÞ ôçëåöùíéêÞ åðéêïéíùíßá ôïõ áðåñ÷üìåíïõ ÐñïÝäñïõ ôçò ÂïõëÞò ê. Ä. Óéïýöá ìå ôïí ðñüåäñï ôçò <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold"> <br />ÊÏ ôïõ ÓÕÑÉÆÁ ê. Áë. Ôóßðñá,</span> êáôÜ ôçí ïðïßá ôïý äéåõêñßíéóå üôé ï üñêïò ôùí âïõëåõôþí êáèïñßæåôáé áðü ôï Óýíôáãìá (Üñèñï 59) êáé üôé «äåí ôßèåôáé èÝìá ðïëéôéêïý üñêïõ». Áðáíôþíôáò ìÜëéóôá óôç ó÷åôéêÞ åðéóôïëÞ ôïõ ê. Ôóßðñá, åðåóÞìáíå üôé «ï óåâáóìüò ôïõ ÓõíôÜãìáôïò åßíáé áðüëõôïò êáé áð´ üëïõò», îåêáèáñßæïíôáò üôé âÜóåé ôùí ðñïâëåðïìÝíùí èá ãßíåé êáé ç ïñêùìïóßá, êáèþò êáé ç õðïãñáöÞ ôïõ ó÷åôéêïý ðñùôïêüëëïõ ïñêùìïóßáò. Åôóé ïé âïõëåõôÝò ôïõ ÓÕÑÉÆÁ áðïöÜóéóáí íá ìçí åéóÝëèïõí óôçí áßèïõóá ôçò Ïëïìåëåßáò êáôÜ ôç äéÜñêåéá ôïõ áãéáóìïý, ùò ðñÜîç óõìâïëéóìïý, êáèþò ôÜóóïíôáé õðÝñ ôïõ äéá÷ùñéóìïý ôùí åîïõóéþí Åêêëçóßáò êáé ÊñÜôïõò. Ïôáí ïëïêëçñþèçêå ï áãéáóìüò êáé åíþ ç ðñïåäñåýïõóá êõñßá Åëóá Ðáðáäçìçôñßïõ åß÷å Þäç áñ÷ßóåé íá äéáâÜæåé ôïí ðñïâëåðüìåíï üñêï, ôïí ïðïßï åðáíåëÜìâáíáí ïé âïõëåõôÝò, Üíïéîå ç ðüñôá êáé åéóÞëèáí óôïí ÷þñï ôá ìÝëç ôçò ÊïéíïâïõëåõôéêÞò ÏìÜäáò ôïõ ÓÕÑÉÆÁ, ïé ïðïßïé áðëþò ðÞñáí ôç èÝóç ôïõò óôá Ýäñáíá. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">ÊáôÜ ôçí ðÜãéá ôáêôéêÞ ôïõò</span> ïé âïõëåõôÝò ôïõ ÊÊÅ êáôÜ ôçí ïñêùìïóßá óôÜèçêáí üñèéïé äß÷ùò íá óçêþóïõí ôï ÷Ýñé ôïõò êáé íá åðáíáëÜâïõí ôá ëüãéá ôïõ üñêïõ. ÕðÞñîå Üëëùóôå ó÷åôéêÞ ãñáðôÞ äÞëùóç ôçò êõñßáò ÁëÝêáò ÐáðáñÞãá õðÝñ ôçò áíáãêáéüôçôáò êáôÜñãçóçò ôïõ èñçóêåõôéêïý üñêïõ ãéá üðïõ êáé áí ðñïâëÝðåôáé. Åîáßñåóç áðü ôçí ÊÏ ôïõ ÊÊÅ áðåôÝëåóå ç êõñßá ËéÜíá ÊáíÝëëç , ç ïðïßá ïñêßóôçêå êáíïíéêÜ óýìöùíá ìå ôá éó÷ýïíôá. <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">ÁëëÜ êáé áðü ôçí êõâåñíþóá ðáñÜôáîç õðÞñîáí âïõëåõôÝò ðïõ äåí ïñêßóôçêáí ìå èñçóêåõôéêü üñêï.</span> Ï õöõðïõñãüò Åîùôåñéêþí ê. Óð. ÊïõâÝëçò, ï ïðïßïò âñéóêüôáí óôá êõâåñíçôéêÜ Ýäñáíá, óôÜèçêå óå óôÜóç ðñïóï÷Þò ôçí þñá ôçò ïñêùìïóßáò, óå áíôßèåóç ìå ôïõò Üëëïõò óõíáäÝëöïõò ôïõ ïé ïðïßïé åß÷áí óçêþóåé ôï äåîß ôïõò ÷Ýñé ìå åíùìÝíá ôá ôñßá äÜ÷ôõëá ùò óýìâïëï ôçò Áãßáò ÔñéÜäáò.<span style="font-weight: bold"> Éäéá óôÜóç ôÞñçóáí áðü ôç èÝóç ôïõò óôá âïõëåõôéêÜ Ýäñáíá ï õöõðïõñãüò Õðïäïìþí ê. Í. 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